Laowai: He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not

danedwards wrote:

Why shouldn't people "sleep with each other the first night" and get "all horny on first attraction"??

Who are you to judge what other people should and shouldn't do in their bedrooms??

Why should people "sleep with each other the first night or the first date" and get "all horny on first attraction"??

I can not understand. I do not know.
but if just for fun, I can understand. but can not accept.

could I join in your research?

I had a great job before i came to china and Probably will have a good one after i leave, which is next month. Never had any problem with money and i am not american too.

Second, once a man have money, time or power, women come automatically. If a chinese man have them, probably, he will be a hot commodity too. I guess there is a word in chinese which goes as "Golden Bachelor".

"Er nai" or lovers of rich chinese men are no hidden truth. So why make foreigners look like we are f* around.

It is true that that the original post has holes upon more holes in her arguments.. Across the board. But in the end she does bring up a valid point ..

There are those who are from western countries (and generally not asian-westerners) come to this country with the idea of getting themselves a asian girl (whether it be one night stand or short term girlfriend). As for women and how they handle that tends to change, (some tend to aim for that while others are tricked). People truly shouldn't be sleeping with each other the first night, flashing money, going all horny on first attraction, and many other things ....
But they do. So what can you say?

I see this post as more of an awareness then anything else. In that case, it does promote awareness and do its job. Let it be ..

As I think, there are also many stupid American, English, Italian,French women and so on.I have been working as customer service representative in a travel agency for two years, I met a lot of lovely people all over the world but there are also more than enough stupid foreign girls. I don`t understand why people make such a big deal about stupid Chinese girl? Because people are in China, they think they have right to judge Chinese women?

Yeah, instead of focus on the comment that chinese girls might be stupid, simple minded, i put more attention on searching the reasons why they are like that. Sometimes i blame the education systerm, which includes the parents, the teachers and also the whole scoiety. Believe me, it is very tough out of there.People will change during the learning period which takes a while. so be patient, i think chinese girls are catching up.

snowdragon wrote:

that part can not be more true

But that is not a Sino-Western thing, thats a man-woman thing.

No man will respect a woman who makes herself easily available. Same as no woman will respect a man like that.

A poster called Centrist does a good number on this one. He writes:

"The “story” is just that– a story. It is full of holes and lacking logic nor evidence. In fact, I will be so bold as to come right out and say it: it’s all a lie.

And here is why:

The writer says that there are only two reasons why foreigners come to China. This is untrue. There are dozens upon dozens of reasons why foreigners come to China.

There are many tens of thousands of foreigners studying in China, for example.

There are professional teachers working in international schools in Shanghai, Qingdao, Beijing, Shenyang, and so on.

Embassy staff. Investors. Corporate executives. Journalists. Researchers. Technology consultants. Pilots. Flight attendants. Tourists. Retirees.

Only two reasons? No, the writer is simply telling lies or too biased to come to a logical, factual conclusion.

Secondly, she (or he) claims that he/she saw a foreigner picking up garbage off the street. As a foreigner in China, I do this too– especially near my home or near my school. It’s called community work and keeping my neighbourhood tidy. She is claiming that this foreigner is so poor that he must collect rubbish to survive? The only rubbish here is this entire fabricated story! Doesn’t the writer know that foreigners –even the most uneducated ones– can get jobs teaching English in schools all across China? Or even more to the point, in western countries poor people especially with children can collect something called “welfare” which can amount to well over 10,000 RMB a month. What foreigner would stay in China and live on the street when he can have housing provided back at home and draw money from the government?

And the story about the black guy and the Chinese girl going to the dormitory of one of the top research schools is classic. Maybe the black guy was a TEACHER at the school? Maybe he is a researcher? Did the writer even bother to research that?

more laughable is the simply foolish story about the “dying foreign AIDS patient in Beijing” is a complete fabrication as any foreigner with AIDS is expelled (deported) to their home country. That’s the law in China. Look it up sometime.

Another fallacy is the odd statement about Japan and how they call “America”. They call America, well, America. )American = America-jin /amelikadzin/ ) Odd how you would just make this up out of thin air like you are the master of Japanese.

And although I am not American, it seems that most of your writing is comparing American men or saying that America = 外国. Well, I got a new mathematical equation for you: 外国 不= 美国. Simply put, once you step out of China, you are not automatically in America. There ARE other countries, you know. Like 加拿大, for example. Have you forgotten 大山 or Dr. Bethune?

This is all just a silly fairy tale article with nothing based on factual information.

I am a foreigner. I am happily married to a Chinese lady. So is my best friend. We both have good jobs and happy healthy relationships with our spouses.

Are there bad foreigners in China? You bet.

Are there bad Chinese in “外国”? You bet.

It goes both ways…"